It seems to be quite idiotic all around. if there is some outside help from those more experienced than you, then there is no problem with it. The only thing that is apparently problematic is that the outside help were all registered in the same address, which all around seems more of a different kind of legal trouble. This is from the view of someone who doesnt quite know all the nitty gritty detals of procedure for the sporting event itself, so i may be wrong about a few things. From what I do see, there is a case of just getting extra help, and training, outside of the season, and even then that just seems more like getting prepared for the new season.
Well I'm going to start of talking about the unnamed player that is suing because she was bench due to the fact that the illegal transfers took her spot. Her main argument - in my opinion is pretty stupid - is since she didn't play they took her only chance of getting any scholarships away from her. First of all if you had enough talent where you could have gone to college for basketball, why did the coach go out of his way to replace you? Clearly she wasn't as good as she thought she was, or - like in most cases of athletes being upset due to lack of playing time- she wasn't as good as her mom told her she was. Honestly if the coach went out and selected a prestigious bundle of girls to ameliorate his team let him. There are copious amounts of schools in Illinois that get students to transfer to their school for athletic reasons. Honestly if Reavis could pull kids from all over I wouldn't have a problem with that, because we would finally have enough talent to compete with schools like Richards. So if you ask me the girl's attempt to sue should be shut down, and the coach should just go to another school.
Mine opinion about the Homewood Flossmoor High School Girls’ Basketball team issue is kind of jealousy and fame. The unknown name girl that was jealous and want to be famous player in my opinion.There are players that don’t get along with each other some might be jealousy. But this issue i think is about fame. The athletes in their school were suspended after an lawsuit filed by one of it’s unknown name player. All this famous team transfers but transfer are good players that want to make a team. In basketball especially you need to be together. But one thing is that they also stripped of all of its wins from the season. The girls lost as well lost the scholarship from it, the chance to go on. This one girl was to me just benched out for better player that took her place and she got angry and lawsuit the coach smith. you have to be good to be picked and not always is perfect so just need to live with it. Her life would be change and the opinion about her as well , not a good choice to me.
I'm not sure what's so bad about bring a team in if the girls don't like it then they don't have to play. Honestly I on the coaches side for this on he he should be able to bring students from another if the students are willing to join their coach if they want to. And ihsa shouldn't make that a law that this shouldn't happen I now its not fair to the other but who are the scouts looking at more players who try or the ones who can score more and win more.
I say it is stupid for the coach to get introuble for bring other players to the school. If the girls are mad beacuse they lost their starting spot, then they should work harder, and prove to the coach that they are better, and have more talent, and will bring the team a win. If Coach Manning brought a kid to the wrestling team, and started over me, i wouldn't get mad. I would just work harder, and challenge the new kid, and prove im better.
To me the only thing the coach did wrong was recruit out of his boundaries. For the girl that was suing the school probably had a larger than life ego, and that she was the best at everything she did. Maybe the coach wanted a team of players who really wanted to win and did not see it in the team he started out with. He probably wanted to put his original team with the six new girls so they could see how they work and practice. Maybe the coach was going to gradually progress the player who sued the school into a starter or contributor to the teams success. However I think the coach did do something by scheduling a “preseason.” Overall I think the consequences for this particular incident were kind of overexaggerative, especially when the whole team got kicked out of the playoff. I think the IHSA could have settled the situation with fines to the players and coaches and let the team have chance at the championship. I am sort of in the middle I can see why the IHSA disqualified them but at the same time they should have let them play, who know they might have even won in the first rounds of the playoffs.
In my opinion the HF girls basketball team should not be out for the year. The team worked hard and exercised all that time for nothing. What the coach did was a wrong thing to do and he knows it. He did a lot of things that were not right to do. One of them was that poor girl that sat on the bench. The other was the girls that he added to the team even though they did not live there. The team should be playing because they did not do anything, it was the coach. The six new girls should be thrown out of the team. IHSA did not have to be so strict about the rules. IHSA did not think about the team that wanted to play because they put a lot of time and effort to play on a time and to have fun too. these games should be about having fun, doing the bast that you can do, and make new friends.
I honestly find it stupid that the IHSA would investigate Homewood Flossmoor as the playoffs start, why didn't they just investigate it during the season to at least give the girls who were originally on the team a chance to play. It is unfair that these superstar girls come in and take the spot light of the girls who were there the seasons before. I still don't understand why the girls got disqualified because it really isn't their fault, it's mainly the coach's fault because he knows the rules better than the girls. He not only ruined his season as a coach, he mainly ruined the girls' season. I understand that the coach wanted to bring his players from Bolingbrook, but he should know that there could be some consequences in doing so. It would at least be fair to let the players who were originally on the team a chance to play.
I believe the HF scandal as a whole is ridiculous. First of all, I found it very unacceptable that HF would recruit students from other high schools, especially students from which coach Smith-a girls basketball coach at Bolingbrook- last coached at. Not only is this illegal according to IHSA rules, he created a team comparable to an All Star team in the NBA. Second, I agree with the parent's decision to sue HF, not on the terms that it allows her daughter to play this season because she was benched due to better players being on the team, but the way in which these players were acquired. The players on the HF team were acquired illegally and the issue had to be unearthed. Next, I am very confused as to why the investigation occurred while HF was in the semifinals of the state championship. It would've made much more sense to conduct the investigation and reveal the findings before the postseason started so that the original five or six or so girls would've received the chance to play and potentially secure an offer to a college on an athletic scholarship. The time in which the investigation was conducted was very unfair to the girls who legally attend and play at HF. Lastly, I do not believe coach Smith deserves to be able to coach basketball at the high school level anymore. Not only did he hold team practices that weren't open to anybody during the preseason, but he recruited students from other schools which he knew he should not do.
Mine opinion about the Homewood Flossmoor High School Girls’ Basketball team issue is that it is a really unnecessary argument. I think that the coach could of bring anyone he wanted yes he should of have asked about permission but its not a big of a deal. I can understand that he girl got mad about her position being taken away. I think it made her feel jealousy about another girl taking her spot. It made here realize that she is not that good and that's why she filed a lawsuit. I think the team should not be out for rest of he year because they worked hard on their practice and they should not throw it away. I believe coach smith should be still able to coach basket ball because he did not do anything that bad and I think they are just over exaggerating about this whole thing. The girl also made a hudge deal maybe she should realize that she wasn't that good at basket ball. There is many schools that do transfer students to make their school better and to have more wins. I wouldn't really care if it happened because your not always good at a sort as you might think you are.
My opinion on the HF girls basket ball team issue is that it is an important issue and required actions were taken. The coach deserved to be suspended and thr unnamed girl who's suing the school and the team because she lost her starting spot due to the coach recruiting players outside the district has every right to sue. The IHSA should make this issue more public so other coaches learn from this coaches mistake. Playing the game isn't only about making it to state and winning its about enjoying the sport and forming a bond with your team. This coach made his team lose focus because he was only focused on winning .
Honestly, I think this situation is really unfair but there are a lot of things the coach could’ve done to not get disqualified and now he’s team cannot play for the finals. This situation can be both ways but to me it’s unfair, I understand that the coach was breaking the rules and what he did was wrong and it wasn’t fair for the girls that were actually on the team and maybe really wanted to start and the girls that don’t even go there take their spot. I think the ISHA did the right thing to do that but they should have suspend the girls that weren’t really on the team, but let the girls that were originally on the team play for the finals. A better way they should have done if I was them is get a new coach and let the girls that go to that school play because they deserved it from the start. The coach could have focus on the original girls because I’m pretty sure they were good and if he practiced with them and actually let them play they could have been a great time and not be able to play for the finals because that’s all they wanted to do. Basically, there were better ways of doing this situation.
In my opinion its not really fair, but the coach shouldn't have get disqualified. Because he got disqualified, his team cannot play in the finals. I think that just because the coach brought players to the school, and some of the girls lost their starting spot and were mad at him, I think that the girls should work harder to be starters. They should work harder at the practices, and there will be time that they will get their starting spots back. I think that it works like that in every sport. Every time a player loses his or er starting spot, because there is someone better than him or her, they should start working hard and show the coach at the practice that they are better and the coach will see that and they will probably get their starting spot back.
I think that the coach should of thought more about the consequences in case they would get caught not just about winning. I also think that the parent's of the girl that went onto the HF team should of thought about consequences as well. Instead of getting new girls to go on the team, the coach should of just made the girl practice harder and more. The girl that sewed the school and coach was right because she's been going to this school for so long and worked her heart out to be on this team. There's no reason why girls that haven't even practiced with the team should be starters.
It seems to be quite idiotic all around. if there is some outside help from those more experienced than you, then there is no problem with it. The only thing that is apparently problematic is that the outside help were all registered in the same address, which all around seems more of a different kind of legal trouble. This is from the view of someone who doesnt quite know all the nitty gritty detals of procedure for the sporting event itself, so i may be wrong about a few things. From what I do see, there is a case of just getting extra help, and training, outside of the season, and even then that just seems more like getting prepared for the new season.
ReplyDeleteWell I'm going to start of talking about the unnamed player that is suing because she was bench due to the fact that the illegal transfers took her spot. Her main argument - in my opinion is pretty stupid - is since she didn't play they took her only chance of getting any scholarships away from her. First of all if you had enough talent where you could have gone to college for basketball, why did the coach go out of his way to replace you? Clearly she wasn't as good as she thought she was, or - like in most cases of athletes being upset due to lack of playing time- she wasn't as good as her mom told her she was. Honestly if the coach went out and selected a prestigious bundle of girls to ameliorate his team let him. There are copious amounts of schools in Illinois that get students to transfer to their school for athletic reasons. Honestly if Reavis could pull kids from all over I wouldn't have a problem with that, because we would finally have enough talent to compete with schools like Richards. So if you ask me the girl's attempt to sue should be shut down, and the coach should just go to another school.
ReplyDeleteMine opinion about the Homewood Flossmoor High School Girls’ Basketball team issue is kind of jealousy and fame. The unknown name girl that was jealous and want to be famous player in my opinion.There are players that don’t get along with each other some might be jealousy. But this issue i think is about fame. The athletes in their school were suspended after an lawsuit filed by one of it’s unknown name player. All this famous team transfers but transfer are good players that want to make a team. In basketball especially you need to be together. But one thing is that they also stripped of all of its wins from the season. The girls lost as well lost the scholarship from it, the chance to go on. This one girl was to me just benched out for better player that took her place and she got angry and lawsuit the coach smith. you have to be good to be picked and not always is perfect so just need to live with it. Her life would be change and the opinion about her as well , not a good choice to me.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what's so bad about bring a team in if the girls don't like it then they don't have to play. Honestly I on the coaches side for this on he he should be able to bring students from another if the students are willing to join their coach if they want to. And ihsa shouldn't make that a law that this shouldn't happen I now its not fair to the other but who are the scouts looking at more players who try or the ones who can score more and win more.
ReplyDeleteI say it is stupid for the coach to get introuble for bring other players to the school. If the girls are mad beacuse they lost their starting spot, then they should work harder, and prove to the coach that they are better, and have more talent, and will bring the team a win. If Coach Manning brought a kid to the wrestling team, and started over me, i wouldn't get mad. I would just work harder, and challenge the new kid, and prove im better.
ReplyDeleteTo me the only thing the coach did wrong was recruit out of his boundaries. For the girl that was suing the school probably had a larger than life ego, and that she was the best at everything she did. Maybe the coach wanted a team of players who really wanted to win and did not see it in the team he started out with. He probably wanted to put his original team with the six new girls so they could see how they work and practice. Maybe the coach was going to gradually progress the player who sued the school into a starter or contributor to the teams success. However I think the coach did do something by scheduling a “preseason.” Overall I think the consequences for this particular incident were kind of overexaggerative, especially when the whole team got kicked out of the playoff. I think the IHSA could have settled the situation with fines to the players and coaches and let the team have chance at the championship. I am sort of in the middle I can see why the IHSA disqualified them but at the same time they should have let them play, who know they might have even won in the first rounds of the playoffs.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion the HF girls basketball team should not be out for the year. The team worked hard and exercised all that time for nothing. What the coach did was a wrong thing to do and he knows it. He did a lot of things that were not right to do. One of them was that poor girl that sat on the bench. The other was the girls that he added to the team even though they did not live there. The team should be playing because they did not do anything, it was the coach. The six new girls should be thrown out of the team. IHSA did not have to be so strict about the rules. IHSA did not think about the team that wanted to play because they put a lot of time and effort to play on a time and to have fun too. these games should be about having fun, doing the bast that you can do, and make new friends.
ReplyDeleteI honestly find it stupid that the IHSA would investigate Homewood Flossmoor as the playoffs start, why didn't they just investigate it during the season to at least give the girls who were originally on the team a chance to play. It is unfair that these superstar girls come in and take the spot light of the girls who were there the seasons before. I still don't understand why the girls got disqualified because it really isn't their fault, it's mainly the coach's fault because he knows the rules better than the girls. He not only ruined his season as a coach, he mainly ruined the girls' season. I understand that the coach wanted to bring his players from Bolingbrook, but he should know that there could be some consequences in doing so. It would at least be fair to let the players who were originally on the team a chance to play.
ReplyDeleteI believe the HF scandal as a whole is ridiculous. First of all, I found it very unacceptable that HF would recruit students from other high schools, especially students from which coach Smith-a girls basketball coach at Bolingbrook- last coached at. Not only is this illegal according to IHSA rules, he created a team comparable to an All Star team in the NBA. Second, I agree with the parent's decision to sue HF, not on the terms that it allows her daughter to play this season because she was benched due to better players being on the team, but the way in which these players were acquired. The players on the HF team were acquired illegally and the issue had to be unearthed. Next, I am very confused as to why the investigation occurred while HF was in the semifinals of the state championship. It would've made much more sense to conduct the investigation and reveal the findings before the postseason started so that the original five or six or so girls would've received the chance to play and potentially secure an offer to a college on an athletic scholarship. The time in which the investigation was conducted was very unfair to the girls who legally attend and play at HF. Lastly, I do not believe coach Smith deserves to be able to coach basketball at the high school level anymore. Not only did he hold team practices that weren't open to anybody during the preseason, but he recruited students from other schools which he knew he should not do.
ReplyDeleteMine opinion about the Homewood Flossmoor High School Girls’ Basketball team issue is that it is a really unnecessary argument. I think that the coach could of bring anyone he wanted yes he should of have asked about permission but its not a big of a deal. I can understand that he girl got mad about her position being taken away. I think it made her feel jealousy about another girl taking her spot. It made here realize that she is not that good and that's why she filed a lawsuit. I think the team should not be out for rest of he year because they worked hard on their practice and they should not throw it away. I believe coach smith should be still able to coach basket ball because he did not do anything that bad and I think they are just over exaggerating about this whole thing. The girl also made a hudge deal maybe she should realize that she wasn't that good at basket ball. There is many schools that do transfer students to make their school better and to have more wins. I wouldn't really care if it happened because your not always good at a sort as you might think you are.
ReplyDeleteMy opinion on the HF girls basket ball team issue is that it is an important issue and required actions were taken. The coach deserved to be suspended and thr unnamed girl who's suing the school and the team because she lost her starting spot due to the coach recruiting players outside the district has every right to sue. The IHSA should make this issue more public so other coaches learn from this coaches mistake. Playing the game isn't only about making it to state and winning its about enjoying the sport and forming a bond with your team. This coach made his team lose focus because he was only focused on winning .
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I think this situation is really unfair but there are a lot of things the coach could’ve done to not get disqualified and now he’s team cannot play for the finals. This situation can be both ways but to me it’s unfair, I understand that the coach was breaking the rules and what he did was wrong and it wasn’t fair for the girls that were actually on the team and maybe really wanted to start and the girls that don’t even go there take their spot. I think the ISHA did the right thing to do that but they should have suspend the girls that weren’t really on the team, but let the girls that were originally on the team play for the finals. A better way they should have done if I was them is get a new coach and let the girls that go to that school play because they deserved it from the start. The coach could have focus on the original girls because I’m pretty sure they were good and if he practiced with them and actually let them play they could have been a great time and not be able to play for the finals because that’s all they wanted to do. Basically, there were better ways of doing this situation.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, this situation is very unfair and I don't think he should of got the six girls involved because now they have consequences as well.
DeleteIn my opinion its not really fair, but the coach shouldn't have get disqualified. Because he got disqualified, his team cannot play in the finals. I think that just because the coach brought players to the school, and some of the girls lost their starting spot and were mad at him, I think that the girls should work harder to be starters. They should work harder at the practices, and there will be time that they will get their starting spots back. I think that it works like that in every sport. Every time a player loses his or er starting spot, because there is someone better than him or her, they should start working hard and show the coach at the practice that they are better and the coach will see that and they will probably get their starting spot back.
ReplyDeleteI think that the coach should of thought more about the consequences in case they would get caught not just about winning. I also think that the parent's of the girl that went onto the HF team should of thought about consequences as well. Instead of getting new girls to go on the team, the coach should of just made the girl practice harder and more. The girl that sewed the school and coach was right because she's been going to this school for so long and worked her heart out to be on this team. There's no reason why girls that haven't even practiced with the team should be starters.
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